Frame or a story within a story
*the frame just distances us from the story
The Symposium is about love
philla- love
sophia - wisdom
*philosophy is the love of wisdom
Phaedrus - rhetorician
Pausanias - lawyer
Eryximachus - doctor
Aristophanes - comic playwright
Agathon - tragic playwright
Aristophanes was supposed to go before Eryximachus but because Aristophanes had the hiccups, they switched turns and the good doctor gave him several ideas on how to get ride of his hiccups.
lover - erastes - older male - can't control themselves
beloved - eromenos - young boy - can't control the lover
The relationship between the two males doesn't create any issues. Issues meaning children.
aesthetic - beauty
Socrates on the physical level is the erastes
Alcibiades on the spiritual level is the erastes
Pandemos (physical love) vs. Urania (spiritual love)
Dr. Sexson shared with the class a very life changing conversation with us between himself and a lady he sat next to on a plane ride home. Along with the Eleusinian Mysteries this woman followed the idea of something said, something done and something shown.
*What she said: I just wanted to please you.
*What she did: gave him a package that still sits on his book self unopened
*What she showed: the inked numbers on her left wrist
Wednesday, February 28, 2007
Tuesday, February 27, 2007
2-26
The Symposium is patriarchal...NO GIRLS ALLOWED, they even sent away the flute girls before they started the discussion
The Symposium is an example of dialectic philosophy because it can't all be completely trusted, it is a composed frame story.
We never see the real thing until we are educated, until then we are just seeing forms....sound familiar?
Plato's Allegory of the Cave suggests the idea of living life by just seeing shadows. In class we made the connection to the Matrix or a movie theater, so i guess the extreme would be if you are watching the matrix in a movie theater. The movie theater is just a modern day cave for Plato, people go into a dark room and sit and stare at shadows on a wall...interesting
Raconteur - is a story teller
"I don't want to talk about it" as the beginning of a story just adds to the drama
Sheherazade - was mentioned in class about telling stories to save her life. The description of her on Wiki closely reminded me of the lady that Dr. Sexson met on the plane....very interesting and worth taking a quick look.
The Symposium is an example of dialectic philosophy because it can't all be completely trusted, it is a composed frame story.
We never see the real thing until we are educated, until then we are just seeing forms....sound familiar?
Plato's Allegory of the Cave suggests the idea of living life by just seeing shadows. In class we made the connection to the Matrix or a movie theater, so i guess the extreme would be if you are watching the matrix in a movie theater. The movie theater is just a modern day cave for Plato, people go into a dark room and sit and stare at shadows on a wall...interesting
Raconteur - is a story teller
"I don't want to talk about it" as the beginning of a story just adds to the drama
Sheherazade - was mentioned in class about telling stories to save her life. The description of her on Wiki closely reminded me of the lady that Dr. Sexson met on the plane....very interesting and worth taking a quick look.
Tuesday, February 20, 2007
2-16
The blogs to check out for the test are
*Elizabeth
*Brittini
*Jan
*Amanda
Don't forget to bring a question to class on Tuesday that you think should be on the test Friday
Dithyrambos - Dionysus
*God of the Double Doors
The mythos (or story) of Antigone is used by Sophocles to make the tragic drama of Antigone. The story that everyone knew went under a metamorphosis by Sophocles to become a dramatic, creative story.
Tiresias - sees the world as both a male and a female because he had lived and experienced life as both
Senex - old men
an example is Tiresias and Creon
The messenger only comes in to deliver bad news and often their description is of scene of graphic violence
Hearing vs showing
*hearing is your own interpretation, they are sparking your imagination and describing a scene but each individual paints a different picture
*showing is someones else interpretation, nothing is left to the imagination
Mistakes are a great thing because they take you somewhere you hadn't anticipated.
*Elizabeth
*Brittini
*Jan
*Amanda
Don't forget to bring a question to class on Tuesday that you think should be on the test Friday
Dithyrambos - Dionysus
*God of the Double Doors
The mythos (or story) of Antigone is used by Sophocles to make the tragic drama of Antigone. The story that everyone knew went under a metamorphosis by Sophocles to become a dramatic, creative story.
Tiresias - sees the world as both a male and a female because he had lived and experienced life as both
Senex - old men
an example is Tiresias and Creon
The messenger only comes in to deliver bad news and often their description is of scene of graphic violence
Hearing vs showing
*hearing is your own interpretation, they are sparking your imagination and describing a scene but each individual paints a different picture
*showing is someones else interpretation, nothing is left to the imagination
Mistakes are a great thing because they take you somewhere you hadn't anticipated.
Friday, February 16, 2007
2-14
In honor of Valentines Day we spent some of the class period talking about Aphrodite (aka Venus) and Eros (aka cupid)
Cupid today is just the watered down version of Eros
Aphrodite is the goddess of love
Eros is the god of love
Aphrodite Urania
*goddess of pure (platonic) spiritual love
Aphrodite Pandemos
*goddess of physical love
Both Eros and Aphrodite have the power to make you weak in the knees
Psyche means soul and the visual representation of psyche (and soul) is a butterfly
Whippersnapper - Dr. Sexson said he could never figure out where the term came from and it looks like it dates all the back to 1674. Check out this link if you want the definition.
"it is the best never to have been born at all, next to die young, and that old age is the worst that can befall a man" pg 243 in Steiner - know for the test
Sunday, February 11, 2007
2-9
[stich]o[mythia] ....meaining row speech
The rape and abduction of Persephone was a good thing because it woke her and took her out of her daze. It opened her to the ideas of death.
If you missed class on Friday you missed Elizabeth (as Antigone) and Megan (as Ismene) and Mick (as Creon) and Dr. Sexson (as the chorus) reinacting lines 497-580. It was very intertaing and gave a lot of clarity and humor to thoes lines!
Hubris - pride
en-theos means the god is inside you
enthusiastic
gods can never take back something after they have promised it
the Furies are the goddesses of the underworld
Antigone is very connected with the gods of the underworld.
The rape and abduction of Persephone was a good thing because it woke her and took her out of her daze. It opened her to the ideas of death.
If you missed class on Friday you missed Elizabeth (as Antigone) and Megan (as Ismene) and Mick (as Creon) and Dr. Sexson (as the chorus) reinacting lines 497-580. It was very intertaing and gave a lot of clarity and humor to thoes lines!
Hubris - pride
en-theos means the god is inside you
enthusiastic
gods can never take back something after they have promised it
the Furies are the goddesses of the underworld
Antigone is very connected with the gods of the underworld.
Wednesday, February 7, 2007
2-7
Homework:
*look around at everyone's blog and find at least one to post a comment on.
*find a single page in Steiner and do a close reading
*pick one of the five categories listed in the pages of 231-277 of Steiner.
-man and woman pg.234
-young and old pg. 242
-individual and society pg.247
-living and dead pg. 263
-mean and god(s) pg. 266
Antigone was only 13
Can you guess who Charles Dickens was obsessed with....Little Red Riding Hood
Look at Carly's blog if you want to check out a great link for Hegel.
You don't have to ban books you just have to create a distraction. Television has done wonders for keeping people away from books.
The word myth comes from the word mythos which means story. So when people ask "what's the story" they are really asking "what's the myth"
Both tragedy and comedy are all in the family
*look around at everyone's blog and find at least one to post a comment on.
*find a single page in Steiner and do a close reading
*pick one of the five categories listed in the pages of 231-277 of Steiner.
-man and woman pg.234
-young and old pg. 242
-individual and society pg.247
-living and dead pg. 263
-mean and god(s) pg. 266
Antigone was only 13
Can you guess who Charles Dickens was obsessed with....Little Red Riding Hood
Look at Carly's blog if you want to check out a great link for Hegel.
You don't have to ban books you just have to create a distraction. Television has done wonders for keeping people away from books.
The word myth comes from the word mythos which means story. So when people ask "what's the story" they are really asking "what's the myth"
Both tragedy and comedy are all in the family
Monday, February 5, 2007
2-5
Comedy - Hermes
Tragedy - Demeter
sparagmos - the tearing of living flesh
polytropic- the trickster, Hermes
metempsychosis - the transformation of one soul into the body of another...nothing every dies,
only changes
Hermes is the guide of souls, takes the souls after death into the underworld
Hermes: Don't things to seriously...everything can be laughed at if you just step back an reevaluate
2-2
What is significant about February 2?
*Groundhogs Day
*Cassie's Birthday (Born in 1987 in Grand Junction, Colorado)
*James Joyce's Birthday
*Dr. Sexson's wedding anniversary
*Aztec New Year
*Purification of the virgin
holiday....holy day
Bloomsday is a commemoration observed annually on 16 June in Dublin and elsewhere to celebrate the life of Irish writer James Joyce and relive the events in his novel Ulysses, all of which took place on the same day in Dublin in 1904. The name derives from Leopold Bloom, the protagonist of Ulysses, and 16 June was the date of Joyce's first outing with his wife-to-be, Nora Barnacle, when they walked to the Dublin village of Ringsend. (from wikipedia)
Hero's are distracted by
*women.......sex
*wine........drugs
*song........rock & roll
Mysteries of Eleusis
*something was said.....rain, conceive
*something was shown.....stalks of grain
*something was done.....drama of Demeter
*Groundhogs Day
*Cassie's Birthday (Born in 1987 in Grand Junction, Colorado)
*James Joyce's Birthday
*Dr. Sexson's wedding anniversary
*Aztec New Year
*Purification of the virgin
holiday....holy day
Bloomsday is a commemoration observed annually on 16 June in Dublin and elsewhere to celebrate the life of Irish writer James Joyce and relive the events in his novel Ulysses, all of which took place on the same day in Dublin in 1904. The name derives from Leopold Bloom, the protagonist of Ulysses, and 16 June was the date of Joyce's first outing with his wife-to-be, Nora Barnacle, when they walked to the Dublin village of Ringsend. (from wikipedia)
Hero's are distracted by
*women.......sex
*wine........drugs
*song........rock & roll
Mysteries of Eleusis
*something was said.....rain, conceive
*something was shown.....stalks of grain
*something was done.....drama of Demeter
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The movie Groundhogs Day
*doing it over and over until you get it right
*an ordinary day turn to an extrodinary day
Find the magic place in the ordinary
Can you find that place in Bozeman
if you look you can find OZ in Bozeman
Dr. Sexson added the first Homeric Hymn to our list, it is To Dionysus
The 3 way archetype
*cron
*mother
*maiden
Demeter is the goddess of fertility and agriculture, mother of Persephone
Doso(line 123) means sorrow
gods can't eat the food of the mortals or they will be stuck there (pg 9)
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Blogs to take a look at while studying for the test
*Elizabeth
*Brittini
Historians can only deal with facts where poets can deal with the truth
MUSES
*figures of inspiration
*mother is Mnemosyne (memory)
*agents to anamnesis (or recollection)
Epic
*Homer ...Odyssey and Iliad
*Virgil...Aeneid
Drama
*Sophocles
*Euripides
*Aristophan (old comedy)
*Aeschylus
Theogony - the text about the birth of the gods
[anti] is against [gone] birth
Antigone...against birth
To Demeter
metaphor of biology
metaphor of love
about the love between a mother and a daughter
metaphor - a story of pictures
men are like microwaves....useful but not necessary
*Elizabeth
*Brittini
Historians can only deal with facts where poets can deal with the truth
MUSES
*figures of inspiration
*mother is Mnemosyne (memory)
*agents to anamnesis (or recollection)
Epic
*Homer ...Odyssey and Iliad
*Virgil...Aeneid
Drama
*Sophocles
*Euripides
*Aristophan (old comedy)
*Aeschylus
Theogony - the text about the birth of the gods
[anti] is against [gone] birth
Antigone...against birth
To Demeter
metaphor of biology
metaphor of love
about the love between a mother and a daughter
metaphor - a story of pictures
men are like microwaves....useful but not necessary
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The key word for the day is...SING
*Here i sing fearsome, lovely-haired Demeter (pg 3 Homeric Hymns)
*Muse, sing of Hermes, son of Zeus and Maia (pg 38 Homeric Hymns)
The homeric hymns are meant to be sung or at least be recited with a tone of inspiration
The muse has to be invoked before one can sing or write. The muse is for inspiration. People are only vessles by which the gods speak through.
A few new terms
*politics - comes from polis meaning the city
*BCE - before the common era, also referred to as BC (before Christ)
*Chthonic - laws that are above the state laws
Plato does not believe in the idea of a blanks slate, he instead believes that people are all knowing until they are born and then life is just the process of remembering what you have forgotten. He believes that people already know everything, you can't learn something new just relearn what you have already forgotten
*Here i sing fearsome, lovely-haired Demeter (pg 3 Homeric Hymns)
*Muse, sing of Hermes, son of Zeus and Maia (pg 38 Homeric Hymns)
The homeric hymns are meant to be sung or at least be recited with a tone of inspiration
The muse has to be invoked before one can sing or write. The muse is for inspiration. People are only vessles by which the gods speak through.
A few new terms
*politics - comes from polis meaning the city
*BCE - before the common era, also referred to as BC (before Christ)
*Chthonic - laws that are above the state laws
Plato does not believe in the idea of a blanks slate, he instead believes that people are all knowing until they are born and then life is just the process of remembering what you have forgotten. He believes that people already know everything, you can't learn something new just relearn what you have already forgotten
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If you are looking for some plans for Feb. 6 at 7:00 then meet Dr. Sexson at Borders Book for his discussion of book addictions. The meeting has been labled "8 readers reading" and will be covering the "whys" surrounding the love and sometimes obsessions of books.
If you missed class on Wednesday you missed a reading of Dr. Sexson's response to watching a man read the newspaper and then plunging himself into the same newspaper. If you want to read it, this link will lead you there.
Sexson suggests that there is nothing new but just versions of the old. With this ides in mind, Dr Sexson challenges us to read the newspaper the same way....Look at the news story and see if you can find the old story.
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Agon comes from a Greek word meaning contest or battle between adversaries
Agony comes from the stem of Agon
The 5 Conflicts in Antigone (between lines 441-581) as described by George Steiner on pages 231-277
1. man and woman
2. young and old
3. individual and society
4. living and dead
5. men (humans) and god(s)
If you’ve started reading George Steiner than you probably think you are CLUELESS! However the reason Steiner is "over our heads" is because it is highly educational. Sexson says we are not aloud to say we are clueless but just get what we can from the writing.
Take a close look at pages 231-277
obscene means off stage
If you were a little stupmed by any of the Greek in Striner's Antigone i found a great site to translate. It also translates from English into Greek...kinda fun to play around with
Sexson asks that for homework everyone gets a Bozeman Daily Chronical and spend some time reading and looking over it
Agony comes from the stem of Agon
The 5 Conflicts in Antigone (between lines 441-581) as described by George Steiner on pages 231-277
1. man and woman
2. young and old
3. individual and society
4. living and dead
5. men (humans) and god(s)
If you’ve started reading George Steiner than you probably think you are CLUELESS! However the reason Steiner is "over our heads" is because it is highly educational. Sexson says we are not aloud to say we are clueless but just get what we can from the writing.
Take a close look at pages 231-277
obscene means off stage
If you were a little stupmed by any of the Greek in Striner's Antigone i found a great site to translate. It also translates from English into Greek...kinda fun to play around with
Sexson asks that for homework everyone gets a Bozeman Daily Chronical and spend some time reading and looking over it
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Class Theme: All that is past possesses our present
Antigone - Memorize (ok maybe not memorize the whole scene but become very familiar with) lines 441 –581
Sexson introduced everyone to a new word (not currently in the dictionary) originary, which means going back.
When asked “What’s New” Sexon suggests we answer “What’s Old” because that is a far more important answer.
Wondering about the young face on the cover of Antigone…well look no further because this link will take you to all you need and want to know about Simone Weil
Antigone - Memorize (ok maybe not memorize the whole scene but become very familiar with) lines 441 –581
Sexson introduced everyone to a new word (not currently in the dictionary) originary, which means going back.
When asked “What’s New” Sexon suggests we answer “What’s Old” because that is a far more important answer.
Wondering about the young face on the cover of Antigone…well look no further because this link will take you to all you need and want to know about Simone Weil
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